Suggestions & complaints with EO:

1) Passwords
Include more characters in what's allowed. It'll increase security and allow you to decrease the maximum length as well. I want to be able to use a . in my password!

2) Username Security Check
Don't be keyloggin'! Every time I type in my username anywhere while logged in, I get that stupid dialog about how "You have input your account and password just now". It's really a bother.

3) Team popup dialog
It's jut plain annoying. If I wanted to be in a team, I'd make or join one. You don't have to tell me every time I go somewhere.

4) Traps
It says I'm at 0/50 uses to next level up, and always has. Fix it.

5) "Free Edit"
In the Skills window if you click on the blue book, the free edit window comes up... which does what exactly?

6) Quest Log
It's there! Make it work. It'd be nice to know what quests were available and what quests are ongoing.

7) Memos
Make a clear button. Sometimes it glitches and clears them somehow, but the icon's still there with a 0 anyway.

8) Warehouse Password
Let me hit Enter instead of having to click OK. It'd be so much faster.

9) Sounds
When I alt-tab around a lot, the volume control seems to get ignored and be at full blast until I move my character.

10) Chat
Add a toggle for things like auction messages, item pickup messages, and all the other types of messages that show up top.

11) Fonts
More font selections would be wonderful. Also, make them universal, not just for chat. And being able to set colors for everything would be nice, too.

12) Tips
Some way to disable them or make read ones NOT show up again when you log in?

13) Path Finding
Organize the path finding menus better! Group all the monster hunting ones in a Hunt Monster menu, all the shop ones in a shop menu, and all the other NPCs below those two menus.

14) Grammar
As hilarious as some of the translations in this game are, it starts to bug after a while. I mean... Gear is already plural in the context you use it for. "Gears" are on the Options icon. If you want, give me a list of all the strings in the game and I'll make them more better-er !

15) Save settings
Save the color of the EXP text, as well as the Eudemon experience percentages. It's a pain having to make them all show the way I want every time I log in.

16) Auctions
Why is the auction warehouse accessible from the Shopping Mall?
Why is there a limit on the number of items that can be put up for auction?
Why can't you take an item OUT of auction if you change your mind?

17) Experience Bar
The level up bar at the bottm goes "off" after 50%... See the screenshot:


18) Mounts
Why are the "city limits" so screwed up when it comes to mounts? You can mount at the warehouse in dark marsh with a ten star, but not outside the front gate for quite some space...
Why can't you use skills or attack on a mount with the exception of XP skills?

19) Jumping
It seems completely useless to be able to jump if you can't get anywhere faster than you could without it. Jumping up and down cliffs, over ditches, etc... would make the Jump feature actually worth something instead of being entirely useless.

20) Moving windows
We can move chat windows, why not any of the other ones?


Last edited by Ripple on 06-27-2008 at 11:13:32 AM.

Suggestions & complaints with EO:

1) Passwords

2) Username Security Check

3) Team popup dialog

4) Traps

5) "Free Edit"

6) Quest Log

7) Memos

8) Warehouse Password

9) Sounds

10) Chat

11) Fonts

12) Tips

13) Path Finding

14) Grammar

15) Save settings

16) Auctions

17) Experience Bar

18) Mounts

19) Jumping

20) Moving windows


1) They just released the bloody Paladin! Do you know how much coding and trial and error it takes to get that made?

2)So in other words you want people to start doing things on TQ's websites without you knowing?

3)Not really, I always forget to invite people if it doesn't come up with this.

4) Have you bothered to heck and make sure this isn't just you?
My traps thing works just fine on my mage.

5) Not even sure what you mean by this...

6) It works for me most of the time...

7) My memos never delete but I would like to see a clear button so I can get rid of them.

8) Is it really so hard to click the yes? Its right there! its not like it starts moving around the screen!

9) alt-tab? not even sure what that does... Only thing that i know of with the Tab button is making people vanish in the market etc...

10) Why do you want to be able to toggle that? Its all system messages....

11) You can already set colors for the texts.... More texts maybe but the 3 are just fine for me.

12) Whats wrong with tips? there very useful...

13) Pathfinding is just fine as it is, Why confuse everyone with a new setup now?

14) Don't actually read what anybody says....

15) Mine stay saved.... I never have to change it back to blue unless I change it...

16)
(A) Maybe lily at the shopping mall is the Auction guys wife? or maybe they have a deal worked out...? Theres tons of reasons.... And then also maybe they just plain didn't want you to have to run the whole way down....
You can jump over ditches...
Some of these idea's are stupid because if you check everything you can already fix them....

(B) Maybe because he doesn't want to get swamped?

(c) Because thats how the game goes.

17) The EXP Bar works just fine for me...

18) Because Dark marsh is a weird place... i guess....
Because They didn't want people to be able to rush by someone and kill them without having to dismount...

19) Jumping is very useful, It allows you to get to stronger monster in later maps.

20) Because other ones are supposed to be fixed?

P.S. How long have you been playing and what level are you?
If your high level this is a sad topic.

Last edited by Shepherd on 06-25-2008 at 06:52:15 AM.

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Name: Farren
Legion: Alerio
Rank: Leader
Level: 83

Thanks so much for your ideas.I will ask my workmates to check it out~LOL

Have fun here!

@Erular: Nearly level 80, been playing off and on for quite some time.

To respond to you:
1) Adding allowed characters to passwords would take no time at all. If they made the password system right and did a simple hash encryption check, the characters that make up the password wouldn't matter at all.

2) No. Try this:
a) Log in to Eudemons and open a web browser.
b)Type in your username in the address bar of the web browser.
c) Notice the message on Eudemons about entering usernames and passwords.
They're keylogging!

3) If people want to join a team, they should ask. I hate getting prompted to join teams all the time. There should be a way to auto-decline as well.

4) The traps work fine, but look in the Skill window. For me it says Traps Lvl:1 Exp: 0/50.

5) Do what I said and you'll see the window. If it has a purpose, I'd like to know.

6) It's always, and I do mean always, blank for me.

7) Nothing...

8) When I'm typing something in, it's an automatic response to hit Enter afterward. Going to the mouse and clicking is an annoyance.

9) Alt+Tab is a windows shortcut for bringing different windows to focus. It's the most useful keyboard shortcut in the OS next to ctrl+shift+esc.

10) Because I don't give a damn what's on auction, and if I wanted to know, I'd hit the auction button to find out.

11) You can change some colors, yes, but I believe programs should have full customization or none. Partial just seems half-assed.

12) They're very annoying after you've seen them once.

13) I suppose it is too much to hope for logical design, isn't it?

14) Good for you. Most people who are new to the game do, though.

15) After you close the game? Mine don't :(

16)
a) I meant put it with the auction instead of with the shopping mall or something. Somewhere that makes sense, you know? I guess it's that logical design thing again, though.
b) It's an automated system, don't be factitious.
c) That's not an answer.

17) I'll get a screen shot in a while and show you what I mean...

18) It's not the only place though... You can mount anywhere in Icyland, too...

19) Haven't been able to jump anywhere useful, but maybe that's cause my acroboat's only 10-star.

20) Why?


@Coffee: Thanks for letting me know I didn't waste my time on suggestions no one will ever care about.

1. You got a good point there.
2. Why the heck would TQ want to keylog you? They have everybody's password stored in a database, if they wanted your password they would just look there.
3. It does get annoying once in awhile but I mostly use it.
4. My Traps are working. Lvl 3, not sure whats wrong with yours.
5. I would want to know what Free Edit is for.
6. Quest log blank for me even if I do quests.
7. Would love a clear button for that.
8. I never really put on a password cause I never give mine out, don't really care if its unsafe :P
9. It does happen its just a little thing about the game.
10. I dont really pay attention to it unless im bored and want to know whats on auction.
11. Font is fine for me.
12. I dont really pay attention to these either.
13. Pathfinding is fine.
14. Grammer is the other people's fault. If they want to speak 1337-speek then let them. Be glad it isnt Chinese :P
15. I wish it would save it too lol, pain to keep switching it back.
16.
A: Little Shortcut so I dont have to go to market when I want to auction something.
B: Cause other people auction stuff too. You dont need to post 200 things then someone elses stuff finially comes up.
C: Not sure but I want a option like that.
17. Mine dosnt go "off" no idea what you mean.
18.
A: Should it matter? At least you can mount.
B: Not sure what you mean, my mentor uses CC on his mount.
19. Jumping is cool, i see nothing wrong with it.
20. If you mean like NPC chat windows then I dont see any problem, you dont need 5 NPC talking at once to you :P

Can n e 1 please tell us how to change the colour of the text??? Thanks

2) If they store the passwords as raw text, I'd like to know so I can delete my account immediately. Passwords should be stored via a Hash encryption method (See MD5, SHA, RC4), and a client and server token exchanged and used in a double-hash method to verify that the passwords match by matching the hash results (I've done a lot of work with server login systems). The game DOES keylog; you can test it yourself as I described above.
4) I'll have to see what's up with it then, cause it refuses to recognize when I cast it.
14) I'm talking about System messages and NPC grammar, not other users.
16 b) I think the best system would be allow each user to have a maximum of 7 items up for auction at any given time, but have no total limit.
17) By "off", I mean it's off center in the display. Like I said, let me get a screen shot of it.
20) Personally, I hate that the new auction item window covers up the system messages on what's on auction. I'd also like to be able to have my skills window and my eudemons' skills window open at the same time.

@dsemma: Options>Chat>Channel
You can change incoming Talk, whisper, team, friend, and legion text.
You can't change outgoing text, names, system text, or a lot of other text colors that could easily be modifiable with a better interface.

Last edited by Ripple on 06-25-2008 at 01:37:46 PM.

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Ripple stop complaining so much
The mount rule i good so it makes u work harder
Also traps works fine on my mage

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Originally Posted by Erular



u have completely missed the writers views or ur being negative of everything hes trying to say. how long have u been playing this game? ive payed it for over 1 n half to 2 years. n i feel that his ideas are really good n are an immediate requirement for the game. we all know what irregular coding has been done with the paladin and all the bugs it has brought along with it. before releasing a new class TQ should have made sure the existing facilities are properly functional. just because u dont find anything wrong doesnt mean u dont think abt others. i agree with almost everything that has been suggested. these are minor details that improve gameplay. the game needs more work on the existing features than to keep making new ones n mess everything else......


Quote:
Originally Posted by Philoooo


erm unless we 'complain' nothings gonna change. as it is complaining doesnt work much with tq these days.
anyway his ideas are good and can be worked on. traps dont work for me. i think they dont work for the old chars but i dunno if its fixed yet or not atleast for my old mage it doesnt...



Last edited by Alanx on 06-26-2008 at 09:56:24 AM.

In response to Ripple:
2. Im pretty sure they use MD5 Hash.
14. I dont really see any grammar that needs fixed in the game, but maybe there is. People can make mistakes :)
17. Ya get a screen shot of that.
20. I would like to have most of my windows open too :D

@Philoooo he isnt complaining, he is making suggestions. Nothing wrong with that.

u have completely missed the writers views or ur being negative of everything hes trying to say. how long have u been playing this game? ive payed it for over 1 n half to 2 years. n i feel that his ideas are really good n are an immediate requirement for the game. we all know what irregular coding has been done with the paladin and all the bugs it has brought along with it. before releasing a new class TQ should have made sure the existing facilities are properly functional. just because u dont find anything wrong doesnt mean u dont think abt others. i agree with almost everything that has been suggested. these are minor details that improve gameplay. the game needs more work on the existing features than to keep making new ones n mess everything else......


Yes I misread some things in his post and realized that after posting my message but by the time i had re-read he had already responded so I didn't bother as there was no point in it.

And even adding a simple period to the password function takes hundreds of lines of coding and even more editing because you have to bypass all the security first time and once your in you have to take all your codes and re-do them completely, some things suggested would simply be impossible due to the complexity of the codes required, I`m a coder myself so I do understand completely how difficult certain things here are, I wasn't trying to be negative about everything, Just trying to point out that some of the things weren't problems that TQ could fix but rather issues that they had no control over.

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Legion: Alerio
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since im not a coder i wont comment on it however if thers a prob then a coder should find a solution to it thats more feasible than giveup saying that its impossible...unless a solution is found development does not take place.
the amount of coding isn't the issue its the efficiency in coding thats important. TQ pays the coders well so no harm in them trying to make things better...
Also ripple's suggestions are very good. agreed they arent easy to code in the game. however its a suggestion n perhaps ripple is just trying to make EO comparable to other games which perhaps offer similar features or even better features.
his ideas arent impossible.just TQ needs to work harder to get them done.
it is a suggestion section afterall.its TQ's decision to see whats feasible...
P.S: i didnt mean to judge ur reply.if i did so then i apologize. i was just expressing my opinion abt the issue which u responded to.

Erular, please explain how adding characters to the allowed list would take "hundreds of lines of coding" to implement? The entire password system should have no regard to what characters are typed in. The only places the check exists is in creating accounts and changing passwords. There shouldn't be character checks anywhere else within the system. If wesman2232 is right and they use standard MD5, then the only code they'd need to change would be the code on the two web pages that allow you to create accounts and change passwords, and that would consist of removing denial checks for certain characters.

Also, I'm suggesting fixes for the entire game. I don't care if it's TQ that fixes it or the original creator company (whoever they are). None of the things I suggested are even hard things to fix. Given the code to the client, the server, and two pages of the website, I could fix all of it myself.

Added a screenshot to explain #17.

ripples suggestions are very good and i agree with alot of whats being said. TQ pays
their coders very well so little changes wouldn't take long to implement. and i have
played a few online games that offer alot more than eudemons does. hell i play RUNESCAPE
also and its a browser based game very small but it offers sooo many different features,
quests, classes,skills, bigger banks,they have more events more often,they constanly
update and add new content for players, and get this are you ready??? they as in jagex
actually listen to the players suggestions and have implemented alot of them. and in
their forums the moderators aren't rude and condesending of the players or suggestions,
their not all blah blah blah heard it before, deleted, locked, go away. im sorry but tq
is severly slacking...lmao...come on...im ready...flame me...burn me...delete me...