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Topic: the weakness of the mage!!
shadowHunter
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10-01-2008 3:57 AM
#1
i know that alot of mages faced that...once u griniding ..suddenly BOOM found warrior with chainchop 1 hit u ..check ur BP and the warrior BP and dun be surprised if u find that u got 1 hit from a noob with BP lower than u in 10-20 bp points with normal stuff...
they should make the mage more powerfull than that.
if some 1 said that mage is plvl faster i will tell him that the warrior now can lvl higher than mages,he can buy windbeads skill and actcivate it on his eudemons...

WE NEED A POwERFULL SKILL for mages TQ plz..
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10-01-2008 5:23 AM
#2
I think it is probably your lack of skills in picking eudemons. I'm a warrior, I can kill mages pretty easy. But some just have strong combinations, so we have it though on them. If you get beaten by a warrior, with 10-20 BP less then yourself. Seriously you did something wrong.


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Alanx
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10-01-2008 5:58 AM
#3
frankly mages rule anytime...lol u certainly have a bad pet combination...remember a mage with 3 mage pets using a thunder skill of his own results into 4 thunders( 1 of urs n 3 from ur pets) so thats 4 thunders on a target at once.....no1 wit less bp can last that lolz! also as for warriors' chainchop remember that CC is countered using high mdef pets...so choose a mage pet with good mdef and ul be absolutely fine....or just use a good mdef converge pet like the cats,mice,SD or pdmd...just choice of pets that makes the difference...mages are kinda the best chars u can make
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10-01-2008 7:29 AM
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i am a war and a mage a mage can kill a person 3-4 pot higher any time as long as the mages makes the right pets two mages and one realy realy strong def pet




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ReeceJones3991
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10-01-2008 8:05 AM
#5
if you have the same BP (and pets main attributes are simialr on ach side) i tend to find the mage comes out on top


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10-01-2008 8:10 AM
#6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric
i am a war and a mage a mage can kill a person 3-4 pot higher any time as long as the mages makes the right pets two mages and one realy realy strong def pet


That's atleast what I'm doing :D I have a Tinna for th extream M-atk :D Diana to share her defence with the Tinna and a Flora inside of me that has alot of def and HP :D Perfect :D But I have no true enemies so all this strategy is for nothing :D I haven't left Market for a couple of weeks :D


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DragonBok
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10-01-2008 8:11 AM
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IDK what y'all are talking about. Same pot or even 2-3 pot under, if a warrior gets first hit in with chainchop they will win. Because CC is so overpowered and mages can't attack while they get hit, and since CC is so overpowered, generally they can kill off any converged pet, meaning they win cause mage goes way under the pot now and the warrior can still stun 'em, or they might get hit once if the mage lives through one CC, but that usually isn't enough to kill off any warrior converged pet. IDK the stun and strength of CC needs to be reworked


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10-01-2008 9:48 AM
#8
If the mage just use atleast 1 pet with really great atk, then 2 other magepets, it is allmost gonna win most of the time, as long as they get the hit first, but Bok is right, if the warrior gets his cc in, well, the pray ur pets can take the damage.


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shadowHunter
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10-01-2008 9:54 AM
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i forgot to say that in that fight i had vinus 5* on me and 6* valkyrie with thunder...he killed the vinus 1 hit then me {i couldn't move cause he did chainchop twice without cooldown}...and he didn't summon any 1 of his eudemons,,just him..{my 40 damage i hit him was ''thunder lvl 2''}..just to let u know..mages cant do anything if they got chainchoped
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10-01-2008 12:38 PM
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I use tinna for m-atk, adam for defense share for tinna, and austin as convert. Just need to put some HP.GR and Pdef.GR ranks on austin...




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10-01-2008 1:22 PM
#11
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Originally Posted by Benny_z
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric
i am a war and a mage a mage can kill a person 3-4 pot higher any time as long as the mages makes the right pets two mages and one realy realy strong def pet


That's atleast what I'm doing :D I have a Tinna for th extream M-atk :D Diana to share her defence with the Tinna and a Flora inside of me that has alot of def and HP :D Perfect :D But I have no true enemies so all this strategy is for nothing :D I haven't left Market for a couple of we ...

Benny_z, since you have nothing else to do, maybe you are interested in finding out this:

find a warrior whose pot is +/-3 within your pot. go to legion land and you two pk each other there. Compare the following two ways of using pets: 1. summon all three ets out including flora vs. summon the two mage pets but converge with flora. do this a few times, and let warrior attack you first some times and then you attack first sometimes, and see how it goes. of course you probably need to pick a warrior with similar level and gears as you.

Last edited by m_m on 10-01-2008 at 01:24:51 PM.


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10-01-2008 2:23 PM
#12
Mages ROCK!!! thunder is the best skill, I have had people doing CC on me and 3 thunder they are dead b4 they are done with the cc.... CC is slow thunder is faster, CC you can't change your target b4 it is done thunder you can.




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10-01-2008 6:32 PM
#13
how many skills do you mages want i meen realy warroirs get like out of xp mode 3 and only 2 of the are any good unlike mages and pallys



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10-01-2008 7:08 PM
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Originally Posted by marcus123
how many skills do you mages want i meen realy warroirs get like out of xp mode 3 and only 2 of the are any good unlike mages and pallys


Not how MANY, it's what they are. Take away Lightning from mage and give them a multi-hit stunning attack. Hell take away thunder AND lightning and give them that attack. There should be a vast difference between chars...there's not. Or take away warriors ability to use any magepet skills but windbeads.


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10-01-2008 8:23 PM
#15
Im a pally now a days but even as a warrior I have always believed that if you choose to be a warrior then be a warrior, to this day I find it pathetic that people choose the warrior class but run around with the mages windbeads. If the skill is meant for a mage then only a mage should be able to use it regardless. On another note though ithas been difficult finding a good pet combo for the palladin and what is somewhat funny is the best combo I have discovered is the 3 pixie method. Ive wiped out teams of people with the def circle multiple times just from those 3 pixies.
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10-02-2008 12:27 AM
#16
What the hell you guys are talking? I suppose, there may be a huge difference while under 200 pot - whoever starts it, wins.
Once it goes 300 and above, warrior really have to have more than 150 pot than you, mage is good enough with +80

It all depends on pet combination and stars - Warriors go with defence/HP pet and P-attack pet converged + mage out.
Mages at low pot go around with defence/HP pet converged + defence and attack mages out. Once you are good enough, you go with 3 mage pets out.

Warriors may seem very powerful at early stages, but it comes really hard to kill a mage later because of damage share. What I mean, if you deal 1000 damage to warrior, all of it is taken either by the player or converged euds - for me that would mean 11 such hits and all my converged pets are dead. 6 more hits and I'm dead myself. So, imagine you are mage with 3 pets out - you make pets cast thunder, then cast lightning yourself - that is 3+1 hit. And there is also a catch - once converged pet is killed, it is dismissed, so warrior looses a lot of potency, so, actually that would mean, warrior like me would take following damage:
1000
1000
1000
1000
1000 <- defence pet dies, 44 pot down
2500
2500
2500 <-- attack pet dies, 47 pot down
4500
4500 <-- I'm fking dead, my mage pet is alive, but who cares

Now, what would happen if I were a mage with equal pets out:
1000 hit will be distributed equally between you and summoned pets, so, if you and your pets each have 5000 HP:

450 + 450 + 450 + 450
250 + 250 + 250 + 250
250 + 250 + 250 + 250
250 + 250 + 250 + 250
450 + 450 + 450 + 450
250 + 250 + 250 + 250
250 + 250 + 250 + 250
450 + 450 + 450 + 450

End of 1st CC, total damage dealt = 14.000, 3.500 of that to you, both you and all your pets are alive, while warrior would be dead by now.
So, it takes twice as much effort for warrior to kill mage, than for warrior to kill other warrior or mage kill warrior.

And also please note - 1000 damage is dealt in case attacker is way above the prey. If you are more or less equall, you will deal 50-200 damage (depends on gears, gems, pets and knight table), which is absolutely insufficient for warrior to kill the mage, because actual damage taken will be 4 times less.
That is also insufficient for warrior to kill other warrior.
However mages rule this time - warriors do hits 1 after another, thus there is a time to regenerate, mages do 3+1 hit (3 hits at the same time from pets, then 1 more from character).


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10-02-2008 4:49 PM
#17
I think i'm a special case in there. I could make a combo. Like when i summon saint, I got bear as defence (two major mdef pets). When i see bear going down, I con with saint. Like that i got way more hits to take and a lot more damage to be dealt. Also when i con 3 pets, well for example I killed a mage 35-40 pot down of me, with total pets summoned in one CC. So I really think it is about pet combs and how you use those.


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m_m
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10-02-2008 5:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Guy
I think i'm a special case in there. I could make a combo. Like when i summon saint, I got bear as defence (two major mdef pets). When i see bear going down, I con with saint. Like that i got way more hits to take and a lot more damage to be dealt. Also when i con 3 pets, well for example I killed a mage 35-40 pot down of me, with total pets summoned in one CC. So I really think it is about pet combs and how you use those.

well, you are a beast with those two saints. if i were you i would stop composing the flora and start making a vanquisher. of course i agree with you on the choice of pet combinations.


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10-02-2008 5:46 PM
#19
yes!! i agree to those players especially warriors who says that you have only wrong
combination of your pets but remember warriors, the skill you are using is chainchop and
has 6-7 a combo slash, so if there is mage and war. who is killing each other, surely the war. will win in a way that he can hit the mage first with his skill before the mage can
cast their thunder skill!!! see that
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10-02-2008 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by LeGeND1
i know that alot of mages faced that...once u griniding ..suddenly BOOM found warrior with chainchop 1 hit u ..check ur BP and the warrior BP and dun be surprised if u find that u got 1 hit from a noob with BP lower than u in 10-20 bp points with normal stuff...
they should make the mage more powerfull than that.
if some 1 said that mage is plvl faster i will tell him that the warrior now can lvl higher than mages,he can buy windbeads skill and actcivate it on his eudemons...

WE NEED A POw ...




this a lie..
i am a mage i pwned people with higher pot then me
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